Legislature(2001 - 2002)

05/01/2001 04:25 PM House ARR

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
                ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION REVIEW                                                                              
                          May 1, 2001                                                                                           
                           4:25 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lesil McGuire, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Jeannette James                                                                                                  
Representative Joe Hayes                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Robin Taylor, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                              
Senator Georgianna Lincoln                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Continued Review of New Mariculture Regulations                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS ACTION                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
No witnesses to record                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 01-12, SIDE A                                                                                                              
Number 0001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   LESIL  McGUIRE   reconvened   the   Joint  Committee   on                                                               
Administrative Regulation Review [recessed  on April 24, 2001] at                                                               
4:25  p.m.     Members  present   at  the  call  to   order  were                                                               
Representatives  McGuire, James,  and  Hayes.   Senators  Taylor,                                                               
Green, and Lincoln joined the meeting as it was in progress.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  expressed the committee's intent  to remain active                                                               
during the interim; the committee  is the only oversight and link                                                               
to the  departments.  Her  aide, Jim Pound, will  contact members                                                               
to  arrange  meetings.    Some  of  these  meetings  may  be  via                                                               
teleconference.  A  letter from Chair McGuire  will be circulated                                                               
among all members of the  House and Senate requesting legislators                                                               
pay particular attention to regulations  that come out pertaining                                                               
to their area  of expertise or that are promulgated  to carry out                                                               
any  of their  legislation.   She  plans to  actively engage  the                                                               
legislature in  [this process] to continue  Representative James'                                                               
work.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE  announced  there  would be  no  testimony  today,                                                               
because the  committee is well versed  in all sides of  the issue                                                               
of mariculture regulation.  The  committee is awaiting a response                                                               
to its letter to Lieutenant Governor  Ulmer.  "The ball is ... in                                                               
her court," noted Chair McGuire.   She thanked the department and                                                               
participants for their time and cooperation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0434                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE   noted  that  she  was   making  new  information                                                               
[unspecified]  available to  all  participants.   She  reiterated                                                               
there   would   be   no  testimony,   including   testimony   via                                                               
teleconference.  She  reminded members that the  last meeting was                                                               
recessed in order  to solicit testimony from Steve  McGee and Bob                                                               
Piorkowski  of the  department regarding  the  policies that  had                                                               
been carried out.  However, both  have chosen not to testify as a                                                               
result of  advice received  from attorneys  in the  Department of                                                               
Law.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE stated she had  chosen not to subpoena them because                                                               
she thought  that adversarial.   There is  a process going  on in                                                               
court,  and  she  is  sensitive  to those  interests.    She  is,                                                               
however,  disappointed  and  knows  other members  are  as  well.                                                               
Every  member  has  a  copy  of the  letter  sent  to  Lieutenant                                                               
Governor  Ulmer.   She noted  that Senator  Lincoln was  the only                                                               
member who  did not sign the  letter.  The letter  addresses some                                                               
serious  concerns the  committee has  with the  department.   The                                                               
committee respects the work the  department has done and that the                                                               
public comment period was extended.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  indicated that [the  signers] have  some concerns,                                                               
however, that have  not been addressed.  One concern  is with the                                                               
department's   putting   regulations   into   effect   that   are                                                               
problematic and  that these regulations may  result in litigation                                                               
and cost the  state, taxpayers, and stakeholders.   [The signers]                                                               
believe these  regulations do not  accurately reflect  the intent                                                               
of the statute.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0702                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE   recounted  that  the  committee   had  expressed                                                               
concerns about  rate increases  at the  Alaska Pioneers'  Home to                                                               
the  Department of  Administration.   Those concerns  still exist                                                               
among many committee members.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE continued:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The committee members believe  that it's pretty clearly                                                                    
     outlined in the statute that  our intent is not to have                                                                    
     seniors  pay the  full cost.   However,  that said,  it                                                                    
     does  appear  that  until  we  solve  that  overarching                                                                    
     problem of the [Pioneers'] Homes  in general, as to how                                                                    
     they  stay  financially   stable,  there  really  isn't                                                                    
     anything for us to do.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE encouraged members  to think about solutions during                                                               
the interim.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0849                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  thanked Chair  McGuire for her  work as  chair of                                                               
the committee.   He  noted his understanding  that the  trial was                                                               
resolved, and a  decision by the court  on aquaculture litigation                                                               
is being awaited.  He said:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     I  find  it  shocking  that  the  department  would  be                                                                    
     unwilling to provide those two  witnesses ....  We have                                                                    
     a  public process  here so  that  this legislature  can                                                                    
     find out  that type of  information and use it  for the                                                                    
     benefit of the state to  correct things that we know or                                                                    
     find that we need to correct.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR stated he thought  it likely to see legislation on                                                               
this issue  unless it is resolved  in such a manner  that "people                                                               
can proceed to do things."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1005                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN remarked  that the  Senate  Health, Education  and                                                               
Social  Services  Committee would  be  looking  at Medicaid,  the                                                               
reauthorization of welfare,  the certificate-of-need process, and                                                               
other   factors  contributing   to   higher   costs  in   Alaska.                                                               
Projections show that  by 2009, Medicaid alone will  be in excess                                                               
of $1 billion in  the state.  Many other things  could be done if                                                               
a solution  to health care  funding could  be found.   She stated                                                               
her belief that the regulatory side  would become an issue in the                                                               
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1157                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JAMES  thanked the  chair, committee  members, and                                                               
public for  their participation.   She  offered her  opinion that                                                               
writing  regulations  is   the  worst  job  anyone   has  in  the                                                               
administration.  It is controversial,  but no one has figured out                                                               
how to  get around it.   She believes  there must be  a solution.                                                               
She continued, "It  is a real trial, and who  is ... really being                                                               
the victim in this case?   ... [The victim] is the general public                                                               
in this case."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1305                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LINCOLN  expressed her appreciation to  Chair McGuire for                                                               
her willingness to hear from both sides.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the Joint                                                               
Committee  on   Administrative  Regulation  Review   meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at 4:46 p.m.                                                                                                          

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